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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    9/9/2003 8:38 pm  
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http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,96848,00.html

Alabama Governor Unveils Capitol Display Including Ten Commandments

Tuesday, September 09, 2003

 

MONTGOMERY, Ala.  Gov. Bob Riley (search) opened an exhibit at the Capitol on Tuesday that included a small plaque of the Ten Commandments (search), keeping a promise to supporters of a massive granite monument removed by court order from the state judicial building.

The plaque was given to Riley by supporters of the 2-ton Ten Commandments monument.

"Just as the Ten Commandments are exhibited in similar displays in the U.S. Supreme Court and in our nation's Capitol building, I feel it is important to display them in our Capitol, as well," the Republican said in a statement.

Riley and Alabama's attorney general included other historical documents, including the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights, in the display to make it more legally defensible than the 5,300-pound monument that sat alone in the rotunda of the Supreme Court building before it was wheeled away on Aug. 27, the governor's spokesman said.

"We want the Ten Commandments to stay in the Capitol, and in order to achieve that goal, we had to hang them in a way that judges in court rulings have instructed," said spokesman David Azbell.

Richard Cohen, attorney for the Southern Poverty Law Center (search), which sued to have the large monument removed, said the center would wait to see what statements Riley makes about the plaque before deciding whether to sue.

"Teaching history by state officials is not unconstitutional," Cohen said. "Promoting religion is."

Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore (search), who was suspended for refusing to comply with a federal court order to remove his commandments monument from the Supreme Court building, said a display like Riley's is unacceptable.

"To put things around the Ten Commandments and secularize it is to deny the greatness of God," he told a crowd of about 1,500 people Monday at a fund-raising dinner for his legal defense.

But several monument supporters who visited the new display Tuesday said it was satisfactory. "This whole thing is not about the monument in the judicial building, but rather the acknowledgment of God in our public lives," said the Rev. Tom Benz, a Montgomery pastor.

Riley had drawn criticism from Moore and some Moore supporters for not joining Moore in defying the federal court order.

A federal judge held that the monument, installed by Moore two years ago, violated the constitution's ban on government promotion of religion.




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  From:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)   9/10/2003 3:56 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (2 of 30)  
 
  690.2 in reply to 690.1  
 
The God-haters and the abusers of "the establishment clause" 
will almost certainly raise a ruckus over this one too. 
In a very real sense it is GOD drawing a line and saying, 

"who is on the LORD's side." ? 

just as many as TRULY love Him, I'd say. 

Shalom. 


---> Isaiah 54:15-17 <---

"If you have not [and show not] (Divine) Love... all the rest profits you exactly NOTHING." - 1 Corinthians 13.

*LenBenHear/FranknSense/Romans 8:14 + John 3:8*


VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS

* Truth Triumphs Over All *

(Always "speak the Truth in Love")...[see Profile] 

* There is a time for mercy...and a time for Judgement. * - (which one you get depends upon your honesty and humility before GOD)


 
and JESUS said, "I AM The Way, The Truth, and The [Eternal} Life [of GOD], *no one* shall be reconciled back to The Father except by Me." - "I AM the door..." - and you walk thru that door *on your knees.* For you see, The Way is: Repentance, Forgiveness, Transformation, and to walk in the Light as He is in the Light: to walk in the Light of His Love and Truth. * 

* There IS no other way. * mercy/grace/truth/and holiness. 


* GOD IS SEARCHING EVERY HEART AND THEIR (actual) RELATIONSHIP TO HIS SON AND ETERNAL WORD! * * He is looking for REALITY: not pretense! * 


but the wise shall understand. 


WHAT IS HAPPENING?---> *Matthew 24:10-14* *Luke 21:22, 31-36* ~ II Timothy 3:1-9, plus verses 12-15. * HEBREWS 12:25-29 * 
- and THAT is what's happening. *FOR REAL* 

THE FINAL SIFTING IS IN FULL-THROTTLE!




** The choices are yours...AND the consequences: whether good or evil. ** ~ ~Ecclesiastes 12:13,14. ~ 
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  From:  clrose1   9/10/2003 7:00 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (3 of 30)  
 
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This is a great man doing what is right. 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    9/10/2003 7:55 am  
To:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)   (4 of 30)  
 
  690.4 in reply to 690.2  
 
Hi,

 

I agree God is clearly making a distinction of those who follow God and those who dont.

 

I posted on another thread about this topic that it is one thing for the Government and certain activist groups to remove the 10 Commandments, it is easy for them to destroy and remove, yet they are unable to do the more difficult task of building or providing a better alternative and clearly there is no better alternative to Gods Commandments.

 

Certainly our nation is a doomed nation as we replace God with human agendas and human selfishness.

 

I pray for us daily!

 

God Bless You,
David



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  From:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)   9/11/2003 2:20 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (5 of 30)  
 
  690.5 in reply to 690.4  
 
It's testing-time, bro. and that is essentially what it 
comes down to. 
God bless 
and keep up the great work. 

Len 


---> Isaiah 54:15-17 <---

"If you have not [and show not] (Divine) Love... all the rest profits you exactly NOTHING." - 1 Corinthians 13.

*LenBenHear/FranknSense/Romans 8:14 + John 3:8*

---> Isaiah 41:10-13 *Psalm 94:1-16, 21-23.* <---


VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS

* Truth Triumphs Over All *

(Always "speak the Truth in Love")...[see Profile] 

* There is a time for mercy...and a time for Judgement. * - (which one you get depends upon your honesty and humility before GOD)


 
NOTHING YOU AND I CAN OR WILL EVER DO can substitute for the mercy and grace found in the redemptive work of Jesus Christ, The Lamb of God. 

* HE IS The ONLY Way to forgiveness and reconciliation with GOD. WITHOUT THE BLOOD ATONEMENT THERE IS NO REMISSION OF THE ETERNAL CONSEQUENCES OF SIN. ---> The ETERNAL consequences of sin. 

* GOD IS SEARCHING EVERY HEART AND THEIR (actual) RELATIONSHIP TO HIS SON AND ETERNAL WORD! * * He is looking for REALITY: not pretense! * 


BE AWARE ! ... Rev 22:10: for the time is at hand.
Rev 22:12: Behold, I am returning quickly. And My reward is with me, to repay to each person according to their work.{INTENT/motive in thought, word, and deed}

THE LORD JESUS CHRIST: The most powerful Being and instrument in the Universe for separating spiritual Light from spiritual darkness. - AND HE IS SEPARATING THE TWO: RIGHT NOW.

* WHAT is He separating? - The wheat from the chaff...and the wheat from the tares. He is (at this moment) preparing the world for judgement, and (simultaneously) preparing an Eternal Bride for His Most Beloved Son. - which group you belong to depends upon your spirit and your CHOICES.

* People are being *fixed* in their true INWARD spiritual condition by choices and responses to Jesus Christ and His redemptive work and words. - IT IS AN INWARD PREPARATION for The Final Seperation. *

~ Why? Because of the nearness of His appearing. {and for some this shall be unto honor and glory forever; for others: it shall be eternal shame, condemnation, and dishonor} 

~ CHOICES.

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** Malachi 3:1-4, + 16-18 **

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Daniel 12:10: Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; 

but the wise shall understand. 


WHAT IS HAPPENING?---> *Matthew 24:10-14* *Luke 21:22, 31-36* ~ II Timothy 3:1-9, plus verses 12-15. * HEBREWS 12:25-29 * 
- and THAT is what's happening. *FOR REAL* 

THE FINAL SIFTING IS IN FULL-THROTTLE!



It all has to do with *fruit* and destiny.---> YOUR choices. Choose Him: choose Life. HE IS GOD's Way to mercy, grace, forgiveness... and TRANSFORMATION! 
* Be sure you answer when GOD comes knocking at the door of your heart! * 


** The choices are yours...AND the consequences: whether good or evil. ** ~ ~Ecclesiastes 12:13,14. ~ 
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    9/29/2003 11:50 am  
To:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)   (6 of 30)  
 
  690.6 in reply to 690.5  
 
Monday, September 29, 2003

'10 Commandments revolution' launched

Man wants to see ACLU 'go crazy' as signs crop up nationwide

Posted: September 29, 2003

1:00 a.m. Eastern

 2003 WorldNetDaily.com 

Motivated by what he views as an assault on free speech by the ACLU, a Georgia man has launched a campaign to distribute thousands of Ten Commandments signs across the nation. 

Robert Frey, a 33-year-old "average guy who's fed up and wants to do something," has set a goal of selling 100,000 signs, suitable for front yards, through a website, TheRevolutionWillBeLive.com. 

http://www.therevolutionwillbelive.com/

"By joining together in this spiritual battle we can give the ACLU a nightmare of fits when it realizes that the more it and its ilk try to destroy America, the stronger we will be, the louder we will become," Frey says on his website. 

He says for each 24" x 24" sign sold, $2 will be donated to the American Center for Law and Justice, a Virginia-based group defending Ten Commandments displays in many legal cases around the country. 

The project is run under Frey's Enterprise Network Solutions, which he maintains as a for-profit firm to "retain its ability to speak freely on political issues such as the Ten Commandments." 

As WorldNetDaily reported, a St. George, Utah, man's effort to post signs bearing the Ten Commandments around town has already resulted in hundreds of copies of the biblical laws springing up on private property. 

Robert Anderson got the idea to distribute copies of the Decalogue after attending a rally in St. George to show support for the Ten Commandments and Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore's fight to keep a display of the laws in the rotunda of the state's judicial building. 

I just thought if it's not me, then who? If it's not now, then when?" Anderson told the Salt Lake City Deseret News. 

Three years ago, the Family Research Council distributed hundreds of thousands of Ten Commandments book covers to school children as part of its nationwide "Hang Ten" campaign, which advocates display of the Decalogue, often on government property and classrooms 

American Atheists of Texas responded in Dallas with an attempt to distribute its own book jacket, featuring quotes about atheism from American Atheists founder Madalyn Murray O'Hair and historical figures such as Thomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin and Ethan Allen. 

A Chicago media company, the Total Living Network, has been distributing free Ten Commandments book covers to students across the country through a program called "Operation 10." 

Meanwhile, a Ten Commandments display was removed from a Montana courthouse lawn Wednesday, effectively ending a 4-year-old lawsuit by the ACLU. 

As WorldNetDaily reported, in Wisconsin Wednesday, a federal judge set aside an earlier order declaring a Ten Commandments monument in La Crosse to be unconstitutional and has granted a motion clearing the way for the ACLJ to represent the owner of the monument, the Fraternal Order of Eagles. 

A new trial has been set for Feb. 17, 2004. 

Last month, Alabama's Chief Justice Moore was suspended for violating a federal judge's order by refusing to remove his Ten Commandments monument. The 5,300-pound display was moved to a storage room. Moore faces a misconduct charge and could be removed from office. 

Frey said, "Now, instead of worrying about a single granite display of the Ten Commandments in the rotunda of an Alabama courthouse, we can watch as the ACLU and its deceived followers go absolutely crazy over the thousands, if not millions, of Ten Commandments displays cropping up all over the American landscape."



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  From:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)    9/29/2003 8:49 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (7 of 30)  
 
  690.7 in reply to 690.6  
 
PRAISE THE LORD! 
- now there's a guy with the right ideas! 

I'm going to check out the site and see what I can do 
to help. 

also: about one month ago we started a new ministry 
outreach here called, "Signs of the Times Ministries." 
- we have a gifted artist in our congregation and we are 
putting together colorful road signs to be put up at 
strategic places throughout the city! 

as an example: one sign reads: "NEW LIFE BEGINS WITH JESUS" 

There is a big, beautiful, colorful butterfly. and underneath 

it reads: "Turn to JESUS with all your heart. Let HIM be Lord 

of your life." ! 

~ IT'S TIME TO GET THE WORD OUT! ~ 


---> Isaiah 54:15-17 <---

"If you have not [and show not] (Divine) Love... all the rest profits you exactly NOTHING." - 1 Corinthians 13.

*LenBenHear/FranknSense/Romans 8:14 + John 3:8*

---> Isaiah 41:10-13 *Psalm 94:1-16, 21-23.* <---


VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS

* Truth Triumphs Over All *

(Always "speak the Truth in Love")...[see Profile] 

* There is a time for mercy...and a time for Judgement. * - (which one you get depends upon your honesty and humility before GOD)


 
and JESUS said, "I AM The Way, The Truth, and The [Eternal} Life [of GOD], *no one* shall be reconciled back to The Father except by Me." - "I AM the door..." - and you walk thru that door *on your knees.* For you see, The Way is: Repentance, Forgiveness, Transformation, and to walk in the Light as He is in the Light: to walk in the Light of His Love and Truth. * 

* There IS no other way. * mercy/grace/truth/and holiness. 


JESUS: He Is The Ultimate Answer to every Ultimate Need and Question. - HE IS The Lord GOD and Savior: Mercy, Grace, ~ Truth and Salvation ~ IS FOR THOSE WHO RECEIVE HIM...IN TRUTH and * from the heart. *


It all has to do with *fruit* and destiny.---> YOUR choices. Choose Him: choose Life. HE IS GOD's Way to mercy, grace, forgiveness... and TRANSFORMATION! 
* Be sure you answer when GOD comes knocking at the door of your heart! * 


** The choices are yours...AND the consequences: whether good or evil. ** ~ ~Ecclesiastes 12:13,14. ~ 
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN "...FAITH that WORKETH by Love..." and GRACE that is made manifest BY FRUIT. - "faith without fruit is DEAD, being alone." Selah.

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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    9/30/2003 5:19 am  
To:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)   (8 of 30)  
 
  690.8 in reply to 690.7  
 
Thats Excellent!!

 

Keep us updated and post any links you have so people can support your program.

 

God Bless You Always,
David



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  From:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)    9/30/2003 10:55 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (9 of 30)  
 
  690.9 in reply to 690.8  
 
Thanks bro. 
We must remember that to dishonor GOD's commandments is 
to dishonor GOD Himself. ! 

When we honor His Word and commandments: we honor Him in a 
way He never forgets...and never fails to reward! 

God bless. 


---> Isaiah 54:15-17 <---

"If you have not [and show not] (Divine) Love... all the rest profits you exactly NOTHING." - 1 Corinthians 13.

*LenBenHear/FranknSense/Romans 8:14 + John 3:8*

---> Isaiah 41:10-13 *Psalm 94:1-16, 21-23.* <---


VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS

* Truth Triumphs Over All *

(Always "speak the Truth in Love")...[see Profile] 

* There is a time for mercy...and a time for Judgement. * - (which one you get depends upon your honesty and humility before GOD)


 
and JESUS said, "I AM The Way, The Truth, and The [Eternal} Life [of GOD], *no one* shall be reconciled back to The Father except by Me." - "I AM the door..." - and you walk thru that door *on your knees.* For you see, The Way is: Repentance, Forgiveness, Transformation, and to walk in the Light as He is in the Light: to walk in the Light of His Love and Truth. * 

* There IS no other way. * mercy/grace/truth/and holiness. 


JESUS: He Is The Ultimate Answer to every Ultimate Need and Question. - HE IS The Lord GOD and Savior: Mercy, Grace, ~ Truth and Salvation ~ IS FOR THOSE WHO RECEIVE HIM...IN TRUTH and * from the heart. *


It all has to do with *fruit* and destiny.---> YOUR choices. Choose Him: choose Life. HE IS GOD's Way to mercy, grace, forgiveness... and TRANSFORMATION! 
* Be sure you answer when GOD comes knocking at the door of your heart! * 


** The choices are yours...AND the consequences: whether good or evil. ** ~ ~Ecclesiastes 12:13,14. ~ 
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN "...FAITH that WORKETH by Love..." and GRACE that is made manifest BY FRUIT. - "faith without fruit is DEAD, being alone." Selah.

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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/8/2003 2:59 pm  
To:  ALL   (10 of 30)  
 
  690.10 in reply to 690.9  
 
ACLU Flip Flops--Admits Florida Ten Commandments Are Constitutional

ANN ARBOR, MI - Just two days after the Thomas More Law Center publicly vowed to defend Polk County, Floridas display of the Ten Commandments against a threatened ACLU lawsuit, the ACLUs Tampa Chapter reversed itself Friday announcing they will not mount a legal challenge. 

Richard Thompson, President and Chief Counsel of the Thomas More Law Center personally addressed a public meeting of the Polk County Commissioners last Wednesday, denouncing threats of a lawsuit by the ACLU. Thompson offered the legal assistance of the Law Center, without charge, promising that no taxpayer funds would be expended in defending the monument. 

In an October 2001 statement on the Polk County monument, Howard Simon, Executive Director of the ACLU of Florida claimed that, "the Ten Commandments is a religious text, and regardless of how it is displayed, it is not constitutionally appropriate." Despite Howards statement and similar statements from other ACLU officials, ACLU representatives were quoted in the October 3rd issue of the Orlando Sentinel as saying they would not challenge the monument. In his acknowledgment that the ACLU would not take on the monument, Simon reversed himself conceding, "context is everything." 

Richard Thompson, the Law Centers Chief Counsel, stated "The Polk County Commissioners are to be commended for their refusal to capitulate to the attempted intimidation by the ACLU. Too often governmental entities succumb to ACLU demands to remove their Ten Commandments displays because of the financial costs involved in defending a lawsuit. The ACLU was called on their bluff by Polk County, and they surrendered."

Thompson further noted, "If the ACLU believed they could have won in court, they would have filed a lawsuit already. Their decision is proof that displays of the Ten Commandments are legally protected by our Constitution, and municipalities should not be intimidated by the ACLUs baseless threats."



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  From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     10/11/2003 11:57 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (11 of 30)  
 
  690.11 in reply to 690.10  
 
David, I had not read this post til now.  Wow!!!!   

>>Thompson further noted, "If the ACLU believed they could have won in court, they would have filed a lawsuit already. Their decision is proof that displays of the Ten Commandments are legally protected by our Constitution, and municipalities should not be intimidated by the ACLUs baseless threats."<<

That is SO great!  So what's going on with the other monument/judge?  Anything new?

 
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/12/2003 6:09 pm  
To:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)    (12 of 30)  
 
  690.12 in reply to 690.11  
 
Hi Amy,

 

Good question.

 

Ill keep a watch out for some information regarding Judge Roy Moore.

 

That granite statue was taken and displayed in a private location Ill find out about that as well.

 

Like the Joyful Excellent name tag.

 

God Bless You,
David



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  From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     10/15/2003 8:25 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (13 of 30)  
 
  690.13 in reply to 690.12  
 
Thanks, David.  I was grateful to read that one article.  Amazing what happens when people band together and do what's right!  

As for 'joyful':   We can have joy, even in the midst of the 'storms' of life, if we are in Christ.  He has shown me this time and again.  "Happiness" depends upon 'happenings,' while joy is something we can have always with us, no matter what the circumstances of life! :)

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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/30/2003 8:44 am  
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  690.14 in reply to 690.6  
 
Source www.foxnews.com
Thursday, October 30, 2003
 
The forced removal of the Ten Commandments monument from the Alabama state Supreme Court has only encouraged others to bring God back into government.

Roger Jones, the mayor of Greenville County, Tenn., is asking all 95 counties in the state to proclaim "God as the foundation of our national heritage." Jones himself has a copy of the Ten Commandments posted in his office. 

Other counties are following Jones' lead. Trousdale County commissioners, for instance, unanimously passed his proclamation. 

The Tennessee American Civil Liberties Union [All Criminals Love Us] has decided not to challenge the proclamation for the time being, dismissing it as nothing more than a piece of paper. But the group said it's unfortunate that a local government is trying to promote religion. 

 



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  From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     10/31/2003 12:33 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (15 of 30)  
 
  690.15 in reply to 690.14  
 
thanks, David.  :)
 
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    10/31/2003 12:44 pm  
To:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)    (16 of 30)  
 
  690.16 in reply to 690.13  
 
Hi Amy,

 

Our Nation is finding out first hand that a Nation without God is just another Godless Nation and there is no blessing in that.

 

Did you like my reference to the ACLU as [All Criminals Love Us]?

 

I Have been meaning to add that to their name for a while now. In the future whenever they are quoted Im going to add it to their name because they really are an organization based on criminal support and against the victims.

 

God Bless You,
David



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  From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     10/31/2003 12:59 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (17 of 30)  
 
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HI David,

 Some folks are waking up and standing for Christ, and that is so welcome!   

Yes, I did see the reference, and it is fitting, for sure. 

 
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From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-11 7:33 pm  
To:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     
 
    
 
Source: www.visionforum.org
Copyright  2003 The Vision Forum, Inc.

Partial post, about 1/2  (2nd half) of the origional content ... 

Tomorrow, November 12, Chief Justice Roy Moore will be tried in what many Alabamians are describing as a genuine kangaroo court  a star-chamber proceeding with a predetermined verdict, limited access to the public, gross due process and procedural violations, no appropriate appeals process, and a courtroom cast of characters rife with some of the most bizarre conflicts of interests and ethical improprieties in the recent history of the Alabama court system.

The list of improprieties are staggering: Incredibly, in one of the most bizarre conflicts of interest imaginable, Attorney General Pryor, the prosecutor in this case, has refused to recuse himself despite the fact that:

He was the defendants lawyer and previously represented the Chief Justice on the very Ten Commandments case which gave rise to the charges for which he is now prosecuting the defendant; 
He received privileged information from the defendant concerning strategy under the attorney/client privilege; 
He selected the very judges to preside in the trial, including non-lawyer, unelected political appointees who will try the elected Chief Justice;[vii] 

He issued Attorney General opinions stripping the defendant of his duties beyond the scope of that which is authorized by statute, and empowering others to fire the defendants staff;[viii] 
He recused himself from serving as prosecutor in a previous case involving the defendant, claiming that he wanted to avoid the mere appearance of impropriety; and The pice de rsistance Attorney General Pryor actually received his appointment to office by promising to do the very thing for which he is hoping to convict the defendant, his former client. 

Under any normal ethical standards for professional conduct, the above behavior would appear to be grounds for filing ethics charges against the Attorney General himself. But none of that matters in a star-chamber proceeding where the deck is stacked, the prosecutor has helped to select the judges, more than a dozen reasonable motions for procedural and substantive due process for the defense have been denied by those same judges, including Moores request that he be afforded a jury trial, the public and press are denied appropriate access, and the defendant has no real opportunity to appeal.

Also, it should be noted that (a) the Chief Justice is being charged with ethical misconduct even though he was never charged with contempt of court for failing to obey an order by the judge who issued the order; and (b) the refusal of the Chief Justice to follow the mandate to remove the monument fell within the actual parameters of the original court order which explicitly allowed him the freedom to exhaust all judicial remedies before requiring the removal of the monument. Despite the fact that two petitions for mandamus and prohibition were pending before the United States Supreme Court, and the clock had yet to run on the allowable time to file a petition for certiorari, Judge Myron Thompson ordered the removal of the monument.

Equally remarkable is the gross conflict of interests on the part of 11th Circuit Judge Myron Thompson who explicitly declared it illegal for the State of Alabama to acknowledge God. While the monument case was still in motion and appeals were underway, Judge Thompson was a featured keynote speaker for the plaintiffs in the case, the American Civil Liberties Union, at their national convention where the judge addressed the ACLU on the subject of using international law to interpret the Constitution.

Former Alabama Supreme Court Justice Terry Butts has addressed the national press, claiming that in his entire legal career he has never seen such tactics brought against a defendant as in this trial of the Chief Justice. Steve Melchior, an attorney for Chief Justice Moore in his federal case, described the proceedings as a "kangaroo court."

 
Former Alabama Supreme Court Justice Butts Expresses
Concern About the Trial to the National Press 

The Chief Justice himself has appealed to the national press. When the President of the United States was tried, he argues, all America got to watch the trial on television, but when the Chief Justice of Alabama is tried, cameras, recording devices, and easy access to the proceedings by the people will be banned. Why? Because the prosecutor knows full well that if the words of the Chief Justice are actually heard by the people, his arguments will win their hearts.

Alabamians appear to share these concerns. A quick flip of the dial through Alabama talk radio reveals that many, even those not generally sympathetic with Chief Justice Moore, are in an uproar over what appears to be gross ethical impropriety and a spirit of unprofessional vengeance on the part of Attorney General Pryor.

To counter these concerns, Pryor has been engaged in a massive public relations campaign that involves traveling around the country, lecturing to law schools, meeting with members of the Left and Right, and publishing articles  all with the goal of vindicating his campaign to remove Chief Justice Roy Moore from office, and to secure his own seat on the federal bench.

The Attorney General is in the fight of his political life. Just last Friday, he failed to receive a sufficient vote on the floor of the Senate to break the filibuster preventing a vote on his nomination for federal judge. Hes banking on the conviction of Chief Justice Moore to prove something to those Democrats  hes not the same Attorney General who was once appointed by the Christian conservative Governor Fob James. He has seen the light. He now knows how to play by the rules of the game.

One thing appears clear for Bill Pryor concerning the trial of Chief Justice Roy Moore it aint business, its personal!

But how did things reach this point?


GOVERNOR FOB JAMES and ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL PRYOR
AGREE to INTERPOSE AGAINST FEDERAL TYRANNY

For the last eleven years, Roy Moore has defended his courtrooms against the attacks of the American Civil Liberties Union which has vowed to drive out both prayer and the Ten Commandments. Along the way, two key men vowed to support him: In 1997, invoking the historic doctrine of interposition, Governor Fob James and his newly-appointed Attorney General, Bill Pryor, promised to stand by then Circuit Judge Roy Moore, even if that meant calling out the national guard in defiance of an unlawful federal ruling. Both the Governor and the Attorney General were in agreement that under no circumstance would prayer or the Ten Commandments be removed from Etowah County courtrooms where then Circuit Judge Roy Moore presided.

The doctrine of interposition, which is anticipated in the United States Constitution,[ix] has a rich twelve hundred year heritage in Western Civilization, is rooted in the biblical doctrine that no man is above the law, and is defined by Blacks Law Dictionary as follows:

The doctrine that a state, in the exercise of its sovereignty, may reject a mandate of the federal government deemed to be unconstitutional or to exceed the powers delegated to the federal government... The concept is based on the 10th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States reserving to the states powers not delegated to the United States. Implementation of the doctrine may be peaceable, as by resolution, remonstrance or legislation, or may proceed ultimately to nullification with forcible resistance.[x]
From the efforts of King Alfred the Great to place rulers under the Ten Commandments, to the Magna Carta, to the Scottish resistance under Wallace and Bruce, to the writings of Calvin, Knox, and Rutherford, to the Westminster Divines, to the glorious Revolution, to the educational legacy of Princeton under John Witherspoon, to the hundreds of patriot pastors who argued for interposition against Parliament, to the Declaration of Independence, to the writings of the Founding Fathers and early Supreme Court justices like Joseph Story, to the nullification of Supreme Court precedent by the executive branch under Andrew Jackson  the doctrine of interposition has been fundamental in our legal heritage. The essence of this doctrine is a proper understanding of jurisdictions and the rule of law.


THE AMERICAN UNDERSTANDING of the RULE of LAW

The United States boldly broke with the ancient military custom of swearing allegiance to a leader. Article VI required that American officers thereafter swear loyalty to our basic law, the Constitution. While many other nations have suffered military coups, the United States never has. Our American code of military obedience requires that should orders and the law ever conflict, our officers must obey the laws. Many other nations have adopted our principle of loyalty to the basic law. This nation must have military leaders of principle and integrity so strong that their oaths to support and defend the Constitution will unfailingly govern their actions. The purpose of the United States Military Academy is to provide such leaders of character. 
 Plaque in Front of West Point, United States Military Academy
(emphasis added)

As a young West Point cadet, Roy Moore was taught that "the rule of law" required an officer to disobey any order from a superior where that order was in conflict with his oath to the United States Constitution. Tomorrow, he will be tried for keeping his oath, for not disavowing God, and for following the very rule of law which he was taught as a West Point cadet namely, dont follow unlawful orders.

Lt. William Calley never went to West Point, but for his faithful obedience to a superiors unlawful order, he was tried and convicted of murder. The jury found irrelevant his testimony that "he was just following orders."[xi]

The question before the Alabama Court of the Judiciary on November 12 is not about the murder of innocents. It is about the only issue, perhaps, which is more fundamental than the question of taking a life: the acknowledgement of God.[xii] Specifically, the question is whether or not the state, and a man charged with defending the right of the state to acknowledge God, must formally disavow God.

Since his nomination to the federal judgeship, Attorney General Bill Pryor has argued that Chief Justice Moore should "just follow orders." According to a motion filed yesterday before the court of the judiciary, the Chief Justice should be immediately removed from office for the "sensational flouting of a valid federal injunction."

Pryor defends his own complicity in the forced removal of the Ten Commandments monument and his own role in the prosecution of the Chief Justice on the grounds that he (the Attorney General) is following "the rule of law." Chief Justice Moore, on the other hand, argues the opposite. Namely, that those sworn to uphold the Alabama and federal constitutions are compelled by the rule of law to reject an unlawful order.

Why the confusion over the "rule of law"? The answer is found in the fact that there are two competing philosophies about what constitutes the rule of law which are at play in the trial of Chief Justice Moore.

The first philosophy is the historic, constitutional, and Christian doctrine that the rule of law is not the opinion of judges but the law of the land. Within this view, rights are inalienable because they are given by God, and it is the purpose of government to secure these rights, but no government may lawfully restrict them, nor is any law or rule to be considered valid which denies God as the ultimate source of law. This view holds that the Constitution, which, along with its preamble, the Declaration of Independence, is predicated upon and presupposes the acknowledgement of the Christian God as lawgiver, is the Supreme Law of the land, and the only rule of law to be followed, the opinion of individual judges to the contrary, notwithstanding.

The second philosophy is the modern view. It is upon this position that Mr. Pryor hangs his jurisprudential hat. The modern view is based on the assumption that law is not governed by fixed principles of higher and constitutional jurisprudence, but evolves based on the changing mores of society and the decrees of whatever unelected official happens to be sitting on the bench at any given time. Under this view, law is positive, meaning that law is whatever men say it is at any given point in time. For proponents of this school of thought, law is subject to change at the whims of judges who, according to Oliver Wendell Holmes, "guide the evolutionary participation of the law." To follow the "rule of law" is to follow the opinions of judges, regardless of whether such opinions are (a) are beyond the scope of their jurisdiction; (b) are contrary to our Constitution; and (c) clearly violate the higher revealed law of God or the Constitution of our nation.

It was this theory of the "rule of law" which was advanced by the defendants on trial during the 1945 Nuremberg proceedings, and is, perhaps unwittingly, being advanced by those who argue "Chief Justice Roy Moore broke the law."[xiii] Here is the rub: Under the modern view, those German judges and lawyers who personally opposed the mass execution of Jews in the early 1940s, and American judges in the 1990s and beyond who personally oppose the execution of unborn babies, nonetheless feel compelled to actively promote such abominations through their legal careers because they are bound by "the rule of law."

During his hearings and throughout the debate for his position for federal judge, for example, Bill Pryor has bent over backwards to repeatedly assure liberal Senators that his personal opposition to abortion and his belief that killing babies is unconstitutional would have no bearing on his recognized duty to follow the "rule of law" by defending abortion rights as defined by the Supreme Court.

Bill Pryors commitment to the evolutionary view of the rule of law has drawn praise from some of the most ardent enemies of Christianity. The Washington Post reported that Morris Dees, president of the Southern Poverty Law Center and a plaintiff against Chief Justice Moore in the Ten Commandments case, is among Pryors defenders. "The heat of this battle certainly matured this young man," Dees said of Pryor. "His actions behind the scenes to orchestrate the state officials handling these things saved Alabama from constitutional crisis."[xiv]


GOVERNOR FOB JAMES BREAKS POLITICAL SILENCE to EXPOSE
PRYORS FLIP-FLOP and ETHICAL IMPROPRIETIES

After several years of being away from the public limelight, former Alabama Governor Fob James has come forward again and issued a public affidavit expressing his profound concern over the hypocrisy of Bill Pryor. In a motion to the Court of the Judiciary, Governor James revealed that Bill Pryor agreed to support the very thing for which he is now prosecuting the Chief Justice:

I talked with Bill Pryor about all this when I was considering him for the job of Alabama Attorney-General. He impressed me with his knowledge of these things and provided me with some legal papers on "non acquiescence" that he was responsible for while at the Tulane Law School. I told Bill about my view that constitutional officials needed to challenge the Supreme Court. For instance, for twenty years my view has been that a Governor should refuse to allow enforcement of a patently unconstitutional court order, and force the president to take action one way or the other on the issue. I dont mean that we should fight anyone with troops. I do mean that we should use our constitutional authority to force the great issue of the day into the provinces of all branches of the federal government, not just a judiciary that likes to sweep everything under its own rug where it has nearly exclusive control. Bill Pryor was aware of my views when I appointed him, because we discussed these things. Bill had indicated nothing but his wholehearted support of my position on these issues at the time.

I have now heard that Bill Pryor is prosecuting Roy Moore before the Court of the Judiciary for refusing to obey a federal court order to remove the Ten Commandments from the State Judicial Building. If this is true, Bills action today are utterly contrary to the political and legal convictions he expressed to me. Had he expressed his present view, I would not have found him qualified to be Attorney-General of Alabama. The main reason Pryor was appointed was his understanding and the ability to express that understanding well that a public officials highest duty was to the Constitution of the United States and not to the Supreme Court or any other entity.[xv]

THE BOTTOM LINE is that PRYOR is PROSECUTING CHIEF JUSTICE MOORE for the VERY THING that PRYOR AGREED to DO to GET HIS ORIGINAL APPOINTMENT. FOB JAMES, III

Governor James son, Fob James, III, an attorney who was present for meetings with Pryor, submitted to the Court of the Judiciary an affidavit in which he explained that Bill Pryor had formally agreed to stand with Governor Fob James and then Circuit Judge Roy Moore in disobeying unconstitutional court orders concerning prayer in court or the Ten Commandments.

James writes: "...after both then Circuit Judge Roy Moore and Governor James had said publicly that they would never comply with a court order to remove the commandments, Pryor as Attorney-General promised " in a meeting of lawyers defending Judge Moore " to be with the Governor in ultimately defying an adverse U.S. Supreme Court order to remove the Commandments. The bottom line is that Pryor is prosecuting Chief Justice Moore for the very thing that Pryor agreed to do to get his original appointment."


FLASHBACK to 1997

But I say to my fellow Alabamians at this moment, the only way those Ten Commandments and that prayer will be stripped from that court is with the force of arms. Make no mistake about that statement.[xvi] 
Alabama Governor Fob James, 1997

What is the context here? Flashback to 1997: Circuit Judge Roy Moore of Etowah County in Alabama is sued by the ACLU for two things: Prayer in his court and a display of the Ten Commandments. Enter Alabama Governor Fob James. When Governor James learned about the courageous Circuit Court judge and his battle against the ACLU, he introduces himself to Moore and pledges to call out the National Guard in an act of interposition against any court order which may arise to throw God out of the courtrooms. Governor James stated:

I am sworn to uphold the United States Constitution and I will.... Judge Prices order stripping Judge Moores courtroom of the Ten Commandments clearly prohibits the exercise of religion. I would use all legal means at my disposal, which includes the National Guard and the state troopers, to prevent the removal of the Ten Commandments from Judge Moores courtroom.
In the midst of this, then Alabama Attorney General Jeff Sessions resigns to take a seat in the United States Senate, leaving the Attorney General position wide open. Upon the recommendation of Senator-elect Sessions, Governor Fob James interviews a young Deputy Attorney General named Bill Pryor.

Now keep in mind that the raging issue de jour at the time of the appointment is the Ten Commandments case, and the official position of the Governor of Alabama is non-compliance to such an order, enforceable by the National Guard, to all unconstitutional orders banishing God from the courtrooms of Alabama.

Bill Pryor understands the issue. He also wants the job. Governor Fob James is presented with an article by Bill Pryor himself, written while editor of the Tulane Law Review on the issue of non-compliance to unconstitutional federal orders. The Governor then interviews the young Deputy Attorney General who assures the Governor that he would stand with him on the issue of lawful resistance through non-compliance on the Judge Roy Moore Ten Commandments case. That is what the Governor needs to hear, so with this assurance from Pryor as the condition precedent for getting the job, Bill Pryor is appointed Alabama Attorney General.

Meanwhile, the Christian community around the nation rises to support Circuit Judge Roy Moore and cheers the courageous stance of Governor Fob James. The February 22, 1997 edition of WORLD Magazine includes a cover story which blesses Governor James for his willingness to enforce the Constitution, by force if necessary, even against a runaway judiciary. WORLD writes:

"Try to take the Ten Commandments out of this courtroom," Gov. Fob James declared to Alabama Circuit Judge Charles Price, "and youll be staring down the barrel of a few dozen M-16s"... The Governor has planted his feet, crossed his arms, and dared a judge to enforce his ruling that the Ten Commandments must go. The Governor promised that the National Guard and the Alabama State Police would be there to greet the judge or his enforcers, unless President Clinton federalizes the guard. In the end, its not just about the right to acknowledge God in public. Judge Moore and Gov. James are fighting for the very principle of self-rule and freedom for religion established by the Constitution, trying to turn aright a document dumped upside down by American judges.[xvii]
Again, I quote WORLD Magazine and Governor Fob James:

"If we accept on blind faith that 100 percent of the time every court order had to be obeyed," Gov. James says, "then you have absolutely given up your democracy, you have become subservient to one judge, or at the most, five of nine judges sitting on the U.S. Supreme Court, and that is not what our Constitution is about." And the governor reminds us once again that this fight is not original with him and Judge Moore. "Throughout our history" George Washington, John Adams, Madison, Monroe, Jackson, Lincoln "absolutely, on occasion, refused to obey court orders," he says. "So dont argue with me. Argue with Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln, Jackson. Thats kind of the way we are."[xviii]

BILL PRYORS RECORD on the MURDER of the UNBORN

But things would change. Shortly after being appointed by Governor James to the position of Attorney General, the ambitious Bill Pryor realized that his goal of being nominated for a federal judgeship would not be advanced through his alliance with the Governor. So Pryor turned on the man who appointed him by formally supporting his opponent in the race for governor. Pryor also reversed his position on non-compliance to unlawful federal orders, and even went so far as to nullify a state law against partial birth abortion, based on his view of the "rule of law."

It is on the basis of this commitment to the "rule of law," that some Senators are urging Democrats to accept Bill Pryor. On the one hand, Bill Pryor claims to be vehemently pro-life; but on the other hand, he has vowed to enforce abortion rights laws he himself has admitted are patently unconstitutional. Pryor is of that brand of lawyer who believes (a) abortion is murder; (b) the Constitution prohibits abortion; but (c) as an official of the state, he has an ethical duty under the "rule of law" to facilitate and legitimize the burning alive, vivisection of babies because he is just following orders.

An example of this, and perhaps the nadir of Mr. Pryors efforts to please all men in the hope of securing a federal judgeship, came when he aggressively refused to enforce duly enacted Alabama laws defending the life of the unborn. In a letter sent to Alabama Senator Shelby, Fob James, III urged the Alabama Senator to oppose Pryors nomination because of his highly political record on abortion:

Pryors position on these matters [the rule of law] underwent a total reversal later in Governor James term, even to the point that Pryor as Attorney General refused to enforce Alabamas "partial birth" abortion law.... The last conversation I recall with Bill Pryor occurred late in Governor James last term after the Governor signed Alabamas "partial birth" abortion law. When the law passed, Mr. Pryor instructed Alabama district attorneys not to enforce the law as to pre-viable fetuses. In my view, this gutted the law and defeated its very purpose. An equivalent to Pryors action would be for the U.S. Attorney-General John Ashcroft to instruct U.S. attorneys not to enforce the Act of Congress on partial birth abortion that Congress passed yesterday and the President is due to sign shortly, as to "pre-viable fetuses." I can say with confidence that by the time of this conversation with Pryor, Pryors legal and political views had undergone a total reversal from the views which he expressed from the first few months after his appointment as Attorney General. I also know that at some time after my last conversation with Mr. Pryor, he said, as a matter of public record that his ultimate career goal was to gain for himself a federal appellate judgeship.

DOES BILL PRYOR AGREE with THOSE JUDGES WHO
WILL NOT ENFORCE GEORGE BUSHS
PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN?

Fob James, III continues:

Today, President Bush signed the just-enacted congressional "partial birth abortion" law, and according to news reports the President declared, "The executive branch will vigorously defend this law against any who would try to challenge it in the courts." When Alabama passed its partial birth law, Bill Pryor, the chief law enforcement officer of Alabama, vigorously and unilaterally refused to "defend the law." Later, Pryor specifically cited the fact that he refused to defend Alabamas partial birth law, in an attempt to pander to the Senate Judiciary Committee considering his judicial nomination. Senator, please also pass along to President Bush that Pryor, his 11th Circuit judicial nominee, believes the president is acting illegally in "vigorously defend[ing] this law against any who would try to challenge it in courts."

DIVISION WITHIN the CAMP?


Chief Justice Moore Addresses a Large Crowd of
Supporters in Barrow County, Georgia

Americans are not accustomed to seeing the type of principled leadership which the Chief Justice has demonstrated. We should not be surprised, therefore, that the same "epiphany" inspired by the courage of Chief Justice Roy Moore, which has breathed new life and hope into the hearts of many Christians has also become a thorn in the flesh for Mr. Pryor and others critics of the Chief Justice who have built their careers (and sometimes fundraising efforts) on a more pragmatic philosophy of jurisprudence.

Dick Bott, founder and owner of the highly influential Bott Radio Network, and one of the most courageous and principled defenders of the unborn, correctly summed it up when he said:

What so-called conservative pro-life, pro-family politicians tend to do "and [we] let them get away it" is to default at the moment of truth, when it really matters. I cant remember when that was so clearly shown as it is in this case. Its when its NOT easy that they make up one excuse after another to "explain" why they had to do the wrong thing. Leaders like Judge Roy Moore are in short supply. We must not fail to shine the light of example on them  so the people will know there are people like Judge Moore they can support with complete confidence, leaders who will not flinch when the temptation is greatest to do so.

WHY ALL the FUSS?

Chief Justice Roy Moore believes that government officials are protected by the First Amendment to acknowledge, without equivocation or diminishment, the sovereign God of the Bible in the public square.

Attorney Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) disagrees.

For months, Mr. Sekulow and his organization have been speaking out against Chief Justice Roy Moore on national television broadcasts, radio programs, in written correspondences, and even before a national home school conference.[xix] Mr. Sekulow has repeatedly criticized the Chief Justice for his "strategy," but the reasons for these so-called strategic differences remain fuzzy to many Americans. Here is a brief primer on the subject to help clear things up:

First, Jay Sekulow argues that to meet constitutional muster, a public official must secularize the Ten Commandments by surrounding it with historical documents, thus proving it is not being displayed primarily for religious reasons. In one of his most recent broadcasts with televangelist Pat Robertson, Sekulow expressed hope that any future case which the Supreme Court would consider would not be argued on the inherent right of the state to acknowledge God under the Constitution, but merely on the historicity of the specific monument.

Chief Justice Roy Moore believes the opposite. He believes that the display of the Ten Commandments is for the very purpose of acknowledging God as the Lawgiver and the Sovereign over this nation. In his view, Sekulow and others who wish to secularize the mere mention of God are unwittingly denying the very sovereignty of God.

Second, the ACLJ has made a career out of taking high profile religious liberty cases, and recently they have included a slew of Ten Commandments cases. When Attorney General Bill Pryor sought to obtain representation for Chief Justice Roy Moore on his federal Ten Commandments case, the Chief Justice explicitly turned down Jay Sekulow because of his concern that Mr. Sekulows approach has consistently been to secure a "win" at all cost, even if it means ghettoizing Christianity in the public square, by fitting the right to acknowledge God into the cracks and loopholes of bad precedent.

Finally, most Americans do not understand that, as a close associate of Attorney General Bill Pryor who has in the past been hired and deputized by Mr. Pryor to represent the State of Alabama, Mr. Sekulow has a vested interest in standing by the Attorney General and against the Chief Justice.


ACLJ TELLS BARROW COUNTY to REMOVE the TEN COMMANDMENTS; BARROW COUNTY TELLS
ACLJ to TAKE a HIKE

To perpetuate the principles of free government, insure justice to all, preserve peace, promote the interest and happiness of the citizen and of the family, and transmit to posterity the enjoyment of liberty, we the people of Georgia, relying upon the protection and guidance of Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution. 
Georgia Constitution

Barrow County is a quiet, humble community made up of many God fearing Americans nestled in the heart of Georgia. They take seriously their duty to acknowledge God. They posted the Ten Commandments and refused to "secularize" it. So when attorneys for the American Civil Liberties Union sued them for posting the Ten Commandments, they sought expert help from Jay Sekulow and the ACLJ.

But when Mr. Sekulows staff arrived on the scene and proceeded to tell the people of Barrow County that if they were not going to secularize the Ten Commandments with historic documents, they had best remove the Ten Commandments from their courthouse, the people of Barrow County decided not to take the advice of the ACLJ, and not to retain their services in the court battle.

 

"When I left my meeting with the ACLJ attorneys," one county commissioner told me, "I had never been so disappointed, hurt, and discouraged in my life.... I could not sleep that night."

Apparently the other commissioners felt the same way because they unanimously voted to reject the ACLJ position of removing the Ten Commandments or surrounding it with secular documents. Instead, they hired Herb Titus, lead counsel for Chief Justice Roy Moore.

According to sources within the Barrow County government, when the ACLJ received word that their services would not be required, lawyers for the ACLJ fired off a letter to Barrow County, highly critical of both the County Commissioners and Chief Justice Roy Moore. According to sources at the Barrow County Courthouse, the letter, which was described as very "personal" and "hurtful," intimated, among other things, that the Alabama Chief Justices position did not deserve the respect which should be given to that of the ACLJ, because Chief Justice Roy Moore was a late comer to the Ten Commandments debate.[xx]

"Our county has never been so unified," one county commissioner stated, since we decided to take a principled stand on the Ten Commandments. "Every major church but one in our county has stated that they are standing with us."


NOVEMBER 6, 2003

Speaking to an overflow crowd of supporters, Chief Justice Roy Moore addressed the people of Barrow County, Georgia, last Thursday, November 6. To rousing cheers, Chief Justice Moore explained, "The question today is what shall the Christians do?" Calling for Congress to use its Constitutional powers under Article III to limit the jurisdiction of the federal and Supreme Courts, Chief Justice Moore urged Americans to rally behind the rising national efforts to impeach judges that will not obey their oath of office, and to strip the federal courts of the ability to even address the question of whether the state can acknowledge God.

Chief Justice Moore further urged: "It is my hope that Congress will act in that case to take that monument out of the closet and place it in the United States Capitol so that all the states and all the people can see that it is not wrong to acknowledge God.... In just one little action, Congress could restore the balance of power and control a runaway judiciary."

The Ten Commandments rally occurred at the same time, and on the very day, that the United States Senate voted 51 to 49 to sustain a filibuster preventing the nomination of Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor for federal judgeship from reaching the floor.


CONCLUSION

Today, November 11, is the anniversary of the signing of the Mayflower Compact, in which our forefathers entered into a covenantal system of government based on the acknowledgement of God. It was this act which set the stage for our Declaration of Independence and for the present battle over whether we as a nation will decide either to (a) freely acknowledge God in the public square; or (b) take His name in vain by secularizing or removing every public reference to His name and His law.

Alabamas state motto is, "We Dare Defend Our Rights." Justice Roy Moore, who was elected by an overwhelming majority to be Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Alabama, is the living emblem of that motto.

Contrary to what some have asserted, Roy Moore has neither advocated nor engaged in civil disobedience. Instead, he has dared to defend his oath of office against judges who have disregarded their oaths to uphold the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of Alabama "as those fundamental laws are written, not as they have been misinterpreted to conform to the constitutionally unfounded "doctrine of incorporation" and "Lemon Test" which arbitrarily assert that religious expression by civil government is valid only if it has a secular purpose.

In every action he has taken and every word he has uttered, Justice Moore has upheld the rule of law against those who have wrongly redefined what the rule of law is and how it is to be upheld.

By rejecting an extra-jurisdictional and unconstitutional order which had the effect of disestablishing the Alabama Judiciary and forbade the state from acknowledging God, Chief Justice Roy Moore acted in the great tradition of patriots, pastors, prophets, judges, and rulers who recognize that there is a higher revealed law of God which precludes any civil magistrate from disavowing God. All nations, rulers, and judges heathen and Christian are to "Kiss the Son."

His actions were justified under the United States Constitution. The First Amendment forbids Congress from making any law concerning an establishment of religion, but it does not forbid the state of Alabama or its Chief Justice from acknowledging God by placing a Ten Commandments monument in the rotunda of Alabamas State Judicial Building. Furthermore, Article V of the U.S. Constitution spells out ways in which that organic document may be amended. Judicial opinions are not among those ways. Article VI makes clear that every federal and state judge is under the Constitution, not over it. The Tenth Amendment reserves to the states and the people powers not delegated to the federal government and enumerated in the Constitution.

His actions were justified by virtue of the doctrine of interposition, a doctrine which is anticipated in the Constitution, which has driven Western law for more than one thousand years, and without which Americans would never have secured our freedom as a nation. This doctrine obliges the lesser magistrate to hold accountable the higher magistrate, when the higher magistrate is acting beyond the scope of his authority and beyond the rule of law.[xxi]

His actions were justified under constitutional and statutory law. Remarkably, the Alabama constitution explicitly and emphatically establishes the Alabama judiciary on the acknowledgement of God. Furthermore, Alabama statute commissions and empowers one man with the unique responsibility of ascertaining any threats to the judiciarys Christian foundation, and providing remedies to such threats. By statute, that one man is the Chief Justice.

Chief Justice Moore has, by his solitary courage, placed at risk his judicial office, his income,[xxii] and his status, not only as a judge, but also as a lawyer, even as he has gained the obloquy of those peer-conscious pragmatists who have either failed to discern the true meaning of the issues at stake, or who have decided to conform their stances to what the Bar establishment has deemed acceptable. Chief Justice Roy Moore has set a standard for judicial integrity which merits emulation. He has given us the opportunity to challenge the anti-Christian forces in our culture and in our government.

Condemned by a liberal media, sued by Leftist lawyers who seek enrichment from more than a million dollars in tax-subsidized legal fees, prosecuted by one who supposedly shares his principles but believes such principles have no bearing on his duties, suspended by lesser men  but lifted up by the prayers of millions of Christians throughout the United States, Roy Moore each day risks his life and his fortune, but has never compromised his sacred honor.

Let us not fail to seize the moment. Let us not fail to support Chief Justice Roy Moore. Let us not fail to embrace him, to encourage him, to approve him, and to advance his cause  which is, without doubt, our cause. We must stand with him when he affirms:[xxiii]

I will not violate my oath, I cannot forsake my conscience, I will not neglect my duty. And I will never deny the God upon Whom our laws and Country depend.[xxiv]
What Should We Do?

Come to Alabama: Christians grateful for the heroism of Chief Justice Roy Moore should come to the Alabama State Judicial Building on November 12 and 13 to stand on the steps before the national media and register their opposition to those who would try and convict a man for honoring his oath and the Lord God.


Oppose the Nomination of Bill Pryor: Please contact your United States Senator and urge them to oppose Mr. Pryors nomination for federal judge. More dangerous than a liberal who persecutes Christians are those professors of Christ who persecute godly men for standing with the Lord. Through his active promotion of abortion (by opposing the enforcement of Alabamas partial birth abortion laws), his persecution of those who believe that God cannot be separated from government, his violation of his own oath of office to uphold the Constitution, and his unwillingness to recuse himself from prosecuting Chief Justice Moore despite gross conflicts of interest, Mr. Pryor has disqualified himself as a public office holder and should resign his current position.


Make Your Voice Heard: Christian America should flood their papers with letters to the editor and flood talk radio with comments showing the double standard and hypocrisy of those who, in one breath say they are pro-life, but in another breath facilitate abortionists; who at one moment agree to stand for the rule of law, and in the next second redefine such a stand to mean the exact opposite. Make it clear that our leaders should not be subjected to political star-chamber proceedings.


Encourage Your Pastor to Preach a Message on the Biblical Duty of Civil Magistrates to Stand for Christ: This Sunday and the following, church shepherds from across America should take a stand for Christ by preaching on the importance that the state acknowledge God, about Romans 13 and the biblical doctrine of interposition, and by explaining the story of Chief Justice Moore, a modern-day Daniel. Please feel free to download background material and sermon notes from www.visionforum.org.


Appeal to Our Brothers in Christ to Stand on Principle: Appeals should be sent to organizations like the ACLJ which have vociferously and actively opposed the Chief Justice and have long been advancing fundamentally compromised arguments while urging Christians to secularize the Ten Commandments. Also, letters of appeal and godly correction should be sent to magazines like WORLD that have urged Christians not to support the Chief Justice. Those Christian ministries that give aid and comfort to the enemy by shooting our heroes wounded in battle should be confronted for such behavior. (To read an overview of how this has happened with one magazine, click here to read "As the World Turns.")


Pray for a Righteous Outcome for this Trial and Beyond: Isaiah 1:9 reminds us that, "Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah." May the Lord preserve His remnant. Please join us in praying that the Lords will be done in the trial of Chief Justice Moore, and that whatever the result, God would raise up an army of Chief Justice Moores to boldly proclaim Christ, to enforce our beloved Constitution, to limit the judiciary from its abusive behavior, and to turn this nation back to Christ. Perhaps then we can experience the joy of godly restoration in our land. "And I will restore thy judges as at the first, and thy counselors as at the beginning: afterward thou shalt be called, The city of righteousness, the faithful city" (Isaiah 1:26). 


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Douglas W. Phillips is a constitutional attorney, the president of Vision Forum Ministries, and the founder and director of the Witherspoon School of Law and Public Policy which for five years has been responsible for training law students, judges, pastors, and attorneys in biblical principles of jurisprudence and statesmanship.

 

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Notes:

[i] Lawrence v. Texas, 123 S.Ct. 2472.

[ii] On October 31, 2003, Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day OConnor stated: I suspect that over time we will rely increasingly, or take notice at least increasingly, on international and foreign courts in examining domestic issues (OConnor: U.S. must rely on foreign law, WorldNetDaily, October 31, 2003). See also Justice Ginsburg and My Two Goats (Douglas W. Phillips, Esq., August 8, 2003).

[iii] Dr. James Dobson spoke these words as part of the keynote address he gave on August 28, 2003, at the "Restore the Foundation" rally held on the steps of the State Judicial Building in Montgomery, Alabama.

[iv] In this order.

[v] Everson v. Board of Education 330 U.S. 855.

[vi] There is no more fundamental question for the American people than "can the state acknowledge God?" This is the first question upon which all principles of liberty repose. The most important social battles of our day concern the future of the family, the preciousness of life, and the legitimacy of marriage. But they are all trumped by the question of acknowledging God. Failure to recognize our source of authority will result in little hope for reform elsewhere

[vii] Because the terms for two of the members of the Court of the Judiciary had expired, Mr. Pryor issued an Attorney Generals opinion, unilaterally extending their terms. See:
(http://www.judicial.state.al.us/documents/coj_recuse.pdf)

[viii] Alabama law gives both a judicial and an administrative leadership responsibility to the Chief Justice. In order to preserve the integrity of any decision before the Court, the Chief Justice must absent himself from any judicial decision-making if there are charges to be determined before the Court of the Judiciary. This does not extend to the Chief Justices administrative role. However, Attorney General Pryor issued an opinion, hours after charges were brought against Chief Justice Moore, empowering the senior associate justice to assume all administrative duties, including the right to fire members of the Chief Justices staff, which is exactly what Senior Associate Justice Houston proceeded to do. See:
(http://www.judicial.state.al.us/documents/coj_recuse.pdf)

[ix] The Constitution does contemplate and provide for the contingency of adverse state interposition or legislation to annul or defeat the execution of national laws. In Re Charge to Grand Jury, Fed. Case No. 18,274 [2 Spr. 292].

[x] Blacks Law Dictionary, Fourth Edition.

[xi] On March 16, 1968, Lieutenant William Calley was deployed to the village of My Lai in Vietnam. His superior, Captain Ernest Medina, gave him orders to kill everyone on sight. Up to five hundred unarmed civilians, including men, women, and children, were brutally murdered or abused.

[xii] The First Commandment binds man to have "no other gods" before God Almighty (Exodus 20:3). The Greatest Commandment requires man to love God with all of his heart. The Word of God requires not only individuals, but rulers and judges of all nations, to formally acknowledge the God of the Bible (Psalm 2).

[xiii] During the trials over their clients egregious war crimes, attorneys for Hitlers henchmen argued that the Nazi defendants should not be convicted because "they were just following orders." They based their arguments on two propositions concerning culpability and the "rule of law." First, they argued that an inferior cannot be found guilty of any act required of him through a direct order by a superior. When an order is given, it must be obeyed without question. Second, the orders that were given were consistent with the "rule of law" in Germany at that time. The Nuremberg Court explicitly rejected this line of reasoning, holding that there was a higher law which binds all men.

[xiv] The Washington PostMonday, August 25, 2003. A Section 5.

[xv] One of the primary reasons I ran for Governor in 1994 was a forty-year pattern of illegal acts by the U.S. Supreme Court. Forbidding pre-game prayer by young athletes, the removal of the 10 Commandments from the schools, and the ever-expanding grab for power by the courts, especially the federal courts, concerned me. I repeatedly spoke on these matters throughout my campaign In my second term I had the good fortune to have Jeff Sessions as Attorney-General for a time. After he was elected to the U.S. Senate, he recommended to me a young man from Mobile named Bill Pryor to replace him. I remember talking with Bill about Judge Brevard Hand, a federal judge also from Mobile. Bill spoke highly of Judge Hand and, if I remember correctly, a decision the Judge had made in the Jaffree school prayer case in Mobile during my first term as Governor. Judge Hand had ruled in that case that the U.S. Supreme Court was misusing the legal system to achieve its own social agenda, while usurping authority granted only to the legislative branches of government. As Judge Hand wrote, We must give no future generation an excuse to use the same tactic to further their ends which they think proper under the then political climate as for instance did Adolph Hitler when he used the court system to further his goals. I later asked the Judge to swear me in as Governor for a second term in 1995, which he graciously did. The main part of my inauguration in January, 1995, was an historical festival with actors playing the parts of historical figures like George Washington warning of change by usurpation in our government. I paid more attention to what Washington and Jefferson and Jackson and Lincoln said about the checks and balances in our legal system, especially as it relates to checking the power of the judiciary, than to ambitious and dishonest judges we saw in the twentieth century.

[xvi] As quoted in Alabama Governor Fob James: leader of the resistance: The upcoming clash with judicial tyranny by Jay Grelan, WORLD Magazine, February 22, 1997.

[xvii] Ibid. Note that under the influence of WORLD Magazine editor-in-chief Marvin Olasky, WORLD Magazine reversed its position on interposition this summer and ran a cover story puff piece on Bill Pryor and his opposition to Chief Justice Moore. For a complete analysis go to www.visionforum.org, and download As the World Turns.

[xviii] Alabama Governor Fob James: leader of the resistance: The upcoming clash with judicial tyranny by Jay Grelen, WORLD Magazine, February 22, 1997.

[xix] Sekulow outlined his qualm with Moores strategy during a talk entitled, Impacting the Culture through the Courts, delivered at the Home School Legal Defenses National Home School Leadership Conference held September 25-28, 2003 in Virginia Beach, Virginia.

[xx] This assertion by the ACLJ is truly remarkable in light of the fact that Chief Justice Roy Moore has been battling the Ten Commandments issue for more than eleven years, first as a circuit judge and later as Chief Justice.

[xxi] Dr. John Eidsmoe has written a brilliant article on the doctrine of interposition and its relation to the history of Western freedom. It is entitled, A Call to Stand with Judge Moore, and it can be viewed in its entirety here:
(http://www.visionforum.org/sections/hotcon/ht/interposition/
2003-08-27_john_eidsmoe.asp)

[xxii] Dr. James Dobson put it this way on September 27 at a meeting at the Broadmoor Hotel in Colorado Springs: ...Are you aware (and youre probably not) that the Chief Justice role-responsibility-position in Alabama is the highest paid position in the state? It is higher than the governors, and it has a seventy-five percent retirement plan for the rest of your life as compared with the governors responsibility which is paid less and has no retirement fund. Why would this man commit professional suicide, which is what some people feel he has done, to do what he did? The reason is because he believes in something. Because he is convicted about something. Because he was concerned about it and was willing to put his life on the line. And I would like you to express appreciation to this man. 

[xxiii] These parting comments are adapted with permission from my father, Howard Phillips, from an introduction of the Chief Justice given on October 3, 2003, in Maryland, for the Institute on the Constitution.

[xxiv] Press conference of Chief Justice Roy Moore, Alabama Supreme Court Steps, August 21, 2003.

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   From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     Nov-12 10:44 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (20 of 30)  
 
  690.20 in reply to 690.18  
 
Hi David,

Thank you for this great, informational post.  I will have to print it out to read later, because it's so long.   It is just incredible, the lengths to which people will go to 'lift themselves up.'  I am sorry for this   man, he just doesn't realize the damage he is causing--to his friend, to our country, but also to himself.  

 
 
 

 
  
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From:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)    Nov-13 3:50 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (21 of 30)  
 
  690.21 in reply to 690.18  
 
remember this, bro. : 
GOD will vindicate both Judge Moore 

AND 

His Holy Ten Commandments. !!! 

Amen and Amen. 


~ CHOICES. ~


 
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* He is looking for REALITY: not pretense! * 


Daniel 12:10: Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried;

but the wicked shall do wickedly:

and none of the wicked shall understand; 

--> but the wise shall understand. <-- 


---> Isaiah 54:15-17 * Psalm 35:1-8,22,23 * <---
*LenBenHear/FranknSense/SEE: Romans 8:14 + John 3:8 and

~~~ I Cor.1:15-16; 4:3-5 ~~~

VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS: * There is a time for mercy...and a time for Judgement. * - (which one you get depends upon your honesty and humility before GOD)


sanctification. 




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and YOU will be EITHER the cross on His right...or the cross on His left. - they symbolize the whole of humanity in relation to Him: The Savior and Judge of every soul. THIS I declare to you in the authority of His Name and Word: you are EITHER {and WILL be either} one or the other. ~ Selah. {pause and ponder that very carefully} for it is an ETERNAL TRUTH. 
 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-13 6:29 am  
To:  LenBenHEAR/LIFE_or_death:SEE: John 3:36 (franknsense)   (22 of 30)  
 
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Exactly!

 

And God Already has for in the New Covenant God has written His Laws on the Hearts (Soul) of man where fascist cannot steal it and put it away!!

 

God Bless you,
David



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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-14 5:12 pm  
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Source: www.ThomasMore.org

Thomas More Law Center Applauds Justice Roy Moore As a Man of Conscience and Courage Despite Panel Ruling
Thu, Nov 13, 2003

ANN ARBOR  The Thomas More Law Center, a national public interest law firm based in Ann Arbor, Michigan announced its unwavering support of Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, despite the fact that a court panel voted today to remove him from office. The nine-member Court of the Judiciary based its ruling on the failure of Justice Moore to obey a federal judge ordering him to remove the Ten Commandments from the rotunda of the Alabama Supreme Court building. 

Richard Thompson, Chief Counsel commented shortly after the decision to remove him from office was announced. Justice Roy Moore is a profile in courage, and should be commended for his refusal to compromise his conscience. Todays outrageous decision is an illustration of how far established authority has come in tearing down the religious foundations of our nation. It is shameful that the panel based its decision on the argument that man is a creature of the law. That may very well be why the panel was so upset with Justice Moores acknowledgement of God. Todays ruling demands that citizens in private and public law must unquestionably follow the decrees of the court, without regard to the dictates of conscience. Hopefully Justice Moore appeals this unjust decision. 

The Thomas More Law Center had filed briefs on behalf of Justice Moore in the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals, and recently in the U.S. Supreme Court in support of his public display of the Ten Commandments. 




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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Nov-16 7:12 am  
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AN EYE-WITNESS ACCOUNT 
OF CHIEF JUSTICE ROY MOORE'S TEN COMMANDMENTS INQUISITION 

By Chuck Baldwin 

November 16, 2003 

I was in attendance at Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore's trial in Montgomery this past Wednesday and Thursday. "Trial" is not really the proper word, however. A better word is "inquisition." 

There was never a doubt that the "judges" had made up their minds to remove Chief Justice Moore from the bench before the proceedings ever began. They sat like wooden Indians throughout the trial, taking few notes and, with only one exception, making no comments, and asking no questions. 

Furthermore, Moore's attorneys had some 20 pieces of evidentiary material that they could have presented. This was denied. There were also several credible witnesses, including former Alabama Governor Fob James, that could have been called to testify on Moore's behalf. This was also denied. 

The trial took upon itself a distinctive tone of inquisition when Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor (Catholic, who previously promised the former Gov. of Alabama that he would NEVER support unconstitutional rulings from a federal court) questioned Chief Justice Moore. Here is an exchange between Pryor and Moore taken from the official transcript of the trial: 

Pryor: Mr. Chief Justice? And your understanding is that the Federal court ordered that you could not acknowledge God; isn't that right? 

Moore: Yes. 

Pryor: And if you resume your duties as Chief Justice after this proceeding, you will continue to acknowledge God as you have testified that you would today 

Moore: That's right. 

Pryor: no matter what any other official says? 

Moore: Absolutely. (Chief Justice Moore then elaborated.) 

Pryor: The only point I am trying to clarify, Mr. Chief Justice, is not why, but only that, in fact, if you do resume your duties as Chief Justice, you will continue to do that [acknowledge God] without regard to what any other official says; isn't that right? 

Moore: (He responds by listing numerous examples of the public acknowledgement of God, and concluded answering the question.) I think you must. 

Does any reader of this exchange not see what Bill Pryor was demanding? He was demanding that Chief Justice Roy Moore not acknowledge God! Pryor did not even refer to the Ten Commandments. He repeatedly asked Moore if he would continue to acknowledge God. To acknowledge God was deemed an impermissible activity and for this Roy Moore was removed as Alabama Chief Justice. 

Watching Bill Pryor examine Roy Moore in such a fashion reminded me of the movie "Luther." It was shockingly similar to the moment when the great reformer stood in front of the Roman council and heard the inquisitor shout, "Will you recant? Will you recant? Will you recant?" 

It is more than interesting that Bill Pryor asked Chief Justice Moore three times whether he would continue to acknowledge God, because Satan asked the Lord Jesus three times to fall down and worship him, and Simon Peter denied Christ three times. There does seem to be a pattern! 

The point that all Americans must understand is that Chief Justice Roy Moore was removed from the bench, not for committing any crime, not for participating in unethical conduct, and not even for posting the Ten Commandments in the Alabama Judicial Building. He was removed from office for acknowledging God! 

Americans must understand that people such as judge Myron Thompson and Alabama Attorney General Bill Pryor actually believe that the public acknowledgement of God is illegal activity. Even more dangerous, they believe that a federal judge's order, not the U.S. Constitution, is the supreme law of the land. Pryor said as much during the trial. 

There is yet another similarity of Roy Moore's trial to a Dark Ages-style inquisition. Not only was he commanded to recant his public acknowledgment of God, the trial itself was conducted out of public view. No television cameras or recording devices were allowed. Obviously, the inquisitors did not want the American people to see and hear for themselves what took place inside the Alabama Judicial Building on that day. 

However, reminiscent of Dark Ages-style punishment, while the trial took place in obscurity, TV cameras were allowed in the courtroom the next day when the verdict to remove Moore from the bench was announced, so all America could witness the "hanging." 

The removal of Chief Justice Roy Moore as Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice is a travesty of justice, a reproach upon our national honor, and an insult to the voters of Alabama! It is also painfully obvious that since the American inquisition has begun, it is now time for an American reformation! 

The American reformation should begin with the voters of Alabama electing Roy Moore to the highest office of that state and by the American people electing men and women to Congress who will immediately put a stop to these black-robed inquisitors! 

Let the reformation begin! 


http://toogoodreports.com/column/general/baldwin/20031116-fss.htm 




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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Dec-2 6:19 pm  
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Religious Freedom of Students At Stake as Supreme Court Hears Arguments in Scholarship Case 
ANN ARBOR, MI - The United States Supreme Court is scheduled to hear oral arguments today in a significant case involving the religious freedom of college students who receive state scholarships. The case grew out of a dispute between Joshua Davey, the recipient of a state scholarship, and the state of Washington after Davey chose Pastoral Ministry as a double major along with Business Management/Administration. Because he chose to study Pastoral Ministry, Davey was stripped of his state scholarship. 

The Thomas More Law Center filed a brief in support of Davey because it is involved in a similar case pending against Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm on behalf of Ave Maria College student Teresa M. Becker. Becker, who had been receiving financial assistance through Michigan's Competitive Scholarship Program for the past two years, was stripped of that scholarship when she declared a major in Theology. At issue in the Michigan case is a state statute that expressly prohibits distribution of scholarship funds to students who major in "theology, divinity or religious education". A federal district judge ruled in July that Michigan's law constitutes "unlawful viewpoint discrimination" and that Becker will likely win her case pending the decision of the Supreme Court in the upcoming Davey case. 

The Law Center brief filed in the Davey case with the Supreme Court argued that the State of Washington's policy wrongly disqualifies students from receiving scholarship funds if they choose to major in theology taught in a way the State of Washington deems unacceptable. The brief further pointed out that this view rests upon an arbitrary and perverse assumption that the few thousand dollars a student receives will be used to pay for Theology instruction-as opposed to the countless secular expenses a student incurs in pursuing their undergraduate degree. 

Patrick T. Gillen, the Law Center attorney who authored the brief observed, "Essentially, the State of Washington creates a perverse and irrebuttable presumption that students like Davey will use their scholarship funds to pay for Theology instruction in order to justify its claim that providing scholarships to students like Davey constitutes unlawful state support for religion. Washington's policy, like Michigan's, blatantly violates the constitutional rights of religious students by allowing the state to discriminate against them when they choose to study religion." 




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  From:  Christ, our Hope (amym38)     Dec-3 8:27 am  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (26 of 30)  
 
  690.26 in reply to 690.25  
 
Didn't I read that Davey then dropped his pursuit of a 'Theology major' to go after a law degree?   I think so.    

Isn't this incredible though?   More and more situations like this are coming to the forefront of the news every day.

 
 
 

 
  
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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Dec-10 11:16 pm  
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Dear Christian, 

You have just helped us win a VICTORY at the Supreme Court of the United States - 

The Justices unanimously ruled to UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF MINORS to participate in political campaigns! 

This portion of the decision in the campaign finance reform case strikes down as unconstitutional a ban prohibiting minors from making monetary contributions to political campaigns of their choice. 

And it sends a strong message: 

The First Amendment rights of freedom of speech and association for people under 18 must be PROTECTED! 

I presented oral arguments in this case - to fight for the rights of six politically active teenagers from Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. 

And WE THANK YOU for your prayers and support - this is an enormously important victory for you and your family! 

But even as the high court ruled the ban on minors unconstitutional, it unfortunately upheld much of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act - 

- including a ban on issue advertisements in the weeks leading up to an election. 

This ruling is a SERIOUS SETBACK to the freedom of many Americans.... 

Advocacy groups will be effectively SHUT OUT of being able to express their opinions and views on the moral and cultural issues that play a key role in elections. 

The free speech rights of minors were protected, but the court turned its back on protecting the constitutional rights of advocacy groups. 

Please continue to pray for our efforts, and watch for further updates about our work at the Supreme Court of the United States! 






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  From:  David (DavidABrown)    Dec-11 10:16 am  
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  690.28 in reply to 690.1  
 
Thanks to friends like you, Faith & Action's work continues
on the lawsuit challenging the unconstitutional removal of
Roy Moore as Alabama's Chief Justice.

Here's an important update: the hearing in federal court has
been re-scheduled for December 22 -- just a few days before
Christmas.

As I mentioned in my last message to you, the judge has
already shocked the Attorney General and the legal
community by agreeing to hear this case. Now, our team
is working intensely to prepare for the hearing, which
is less than two weeks away.

+ + Americans are waking up

As I travel the country, I am noticing that more and more
people are waking up to the fact that many in this nation
will stop at nothing to stifle the public acknowledgment
of God.

This is much larger than the Ten Commandments -- there
is an agenda to strip any and every reference to God
from our public lives. And to use whatever means
necessary to target and punish those like Roy Moore
who dare to take a stand.

+ + Five brave Alabama citizens are taking a stand

It is so encouraging to see the five brave Alabama
citizens who are willing to challenge  this violation
of their rights.

And I am thankful that so many friends in Faith & Action's
online team have taken a stand as well. Thanks to gifts
from many friends, we can help defray the escalating legal
costs of this case and continue our other efforts to stand
for the Ten Commandments.

I will keep you posted as the trial date approaches.


Rev. Rob Schenck
Faith & Action

P.S. Thanks again to everyone who has made a gift to
Faith & Action in the past few weeks. If you haven't
yet donated to support this effort, it's not too late.
We certainly can use your financial support, especially
in the next 72 hours (see below). And be sure to be
in prayer as the December 22 deadline approaches.

+ + Make a donation by check or credit card

http://www.grassfire.net/10/donate.asp?rid=1246062

+ + Join us in Washington, D.C. next month for our
      Winter Conference:

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  From:  carla5010   Dec-12 8:54 pm  
To:  David (DavidABrown)    (29 of 30)  
 
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That doesn't help, though, as ACLU is arguing against displays on public buildings. I seem to remember the ACLU actually arguing for people to be allowed to do whatever they want to do with their private property. I think this had something to do with rusty cars in the front-yard, but likely the same would apply here 
  
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   From:  David (DavidABrown)    Dec-13 12:17 am  
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Hi,

 

The ACLU doesnt know what it believes in. It only knows that it is against anything Christian, pro-life, or any victims of any crime.

 

I think they should just fold up they have no credibility.

 

Rusty cars can be a health hazard and a rat trap but of course the ACLU is all for blight and against anything descent.

 

God Bless you,
David



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